Q
Winner takes all?
Motors, jobs, houses.
Do you see on each of these segments a "winner takes
all" dynamic (besides some players specializing in
certain niches)? How important is the local component in
each of the segments?
A
You would think, if one big successful website provides
a great service then who needs other sites that offer
the same services? But there's a catch. The winner does
not always take it all. For example: in the Netherlands,
marktplaats.nl (since 2004 owned by ebay) is a runaway
success and the biggest player in online classifieds. In
2004, after several years watching their classifieds
decline in print to almost nothing, the newspaper group
de Telegraaf finally launched a competitor to go head to
head with Marktplaats.nl, called Speurders.nl. But now,
2 years later, they still didn't catch up, despite
spending millions of Euro in marketing and leveraging
their media assets in print, tv and magazines. We don’t
believe the Telegraaf will catch up Marktplaats in the
foreseeable future but clearly it occupies a good second
place. A silver medal is still a medal. Speurders will
also start charging for ads in some high value
categories, which will allow a positive cashflow
contribution (eventually). So although Marktplaats
remains the clear winner and dominates the market,
Speurders proved that it isn't impossible for
second-place players to survive.
Q
Is local important?
How important is
the local component in each of the segments, motors,
jobs, houses?
A
Classifieds are absolutely a local market. Nobody wants
to travel 200 km for a second hand fridge, so a fridge
in your neighbourhood is by definition more interesting.
However, a national or even global website which offers
a sensible interface for finding local content can work
just as well as a local website. If you can enter your
postcode and a distance you are willing to travel, for
example, that’s just as good as a website dedicated only
to your neighbourhood. And if the website remembers your
postcode for next time (with a cookie, perhaps)... well,
even better.
Where do we work, where do we shop, where do we go to
the cinema? It’s all local. For most of us, if we plot
our daily movements on a map, we spend 99% of our time
within a few km of our home and our workplace. DId you
know that most people who move house actually buy within
20 miles of their current house? Same goes for new jobs.
This also emphasizes the importance of local.
Q Are
newspapers too late?
Are newspapers already too late to get a foot on the
online market of some of these markets? In some areas,
newspapers have a respectable share but in others,
despite significant investments, their share is
ridiculous.
A
Of course not! It's (almost) never too late. Newspapers
have so much that works in their favour and they are
most certainly not too late -- provided they allow their
online business managers to compete on a level playing
field with the online players.
Example: Monster.com will publish your vacancies
worldwide in a few minutes; the same goes for
online-only players in real estate, autos, etc. But now
newspapers start worrying about deadlines for the next
printed paper... we can't publish online before we
publish in print or we will de-value our printed
papers...
We say, this is wrong thinking! OK, so there's an
asynchronous publication of newspaper and online. Sure,
it's slower to print and distribute thousands of papers
than to update a web page from a database. Of course it
is! We all know this. Your advertisers know it too.
Another example: newspaper advertising is built on a
database just like the online players. But newspapers
usually operate on systems designed before the web even
existed. They were made for print. They are not well
suited to the needs of the web. The newspaper brings
tradition, brand values, marketing power… but it also
imposes its old systems and workflows. These old systems
have to be replaced now with faster, web-based systems
that are capable of handling both online and print. This
is one of the messages that Rosetta tries to bring to
newspapers as often as we can: you cannot hope to win a
competitive race if your systems are outdated and your
workflows are labor-intensive.
Q
Vertical sales teams?
How important is it to have a vertical sales force for
each vertical segment (motor, jobs, housing)?
A
In our work at Rosetta we have seen several approaches
over the years. Combined online and print, separate
online and print… it seems there isn't one right way to
organize your sales teams, you have to think about your
business and its key issues.
- All sales
personnel need ongoing training. It's the key to
motivation. Before they can sell online services they
need training in the different benefits and attributes
of advertising in print and online. Also note that
training is an ongoing task, not just a day or two in
the beginning! Keep your staff informed about all
developments that affect their selling activities. Give
them competitive analysis reports that allow them to
explain the benefits of your services to advertisers,
compared with the competition.
- Reward sales
with extra incentives for the services and products that
offer the highest benefit to your business – whether
these are online or offline or both, publishers should
make it clear through incentives which product offerings
to sell in each circumstance.
- Self service
advertising is a fast-growing trend. It's cheaper,
quicker and margins are often higher. But not all
customers are the same. Some prefer self service, others
prefer the human touch, speaking to a real person.
- From a
practical point of view, it's hard for anyone to keep up
with all the developments in all the vertical markets.
And most sales people probably have more affinity and
knowledge about one market than if they are trying to
cover all of them. Overall, we would recommend to assign
sales personnel to vertical markets. But use incentives,
manager feedback, role playing and lots of competitive
analysis to make sure they have all the knowledge about
that market at their fingertips when selling services to
customers.
Q Are
margins going down?
Is the online classified markets going to end up being a
pretty low price, low margin market? Can free listings
and paid classified companies live together or is this
going to be a free listings world?
A
No, they're going up!
The online classifieds market is above all a market
where volume is critical. Lots of ads and lots of
traffic. Once these critical factors are in place, the
benefits of automation and self service on high usage
and volumes actually make margins stronger than in
print. Long term, we can see that classifieds in print
are in decline and that trend does not show any sign of
changing in the foreseeable future. There are some
exceptions of course (high-value jobs, cars and homes,
for example) but even these markets too are increasingly
online. Remember that a well-run online business is more
about fixed costs than variable costs. Get your
infrastructure right and you see that increased volume
only brings a relatively small increase in cost. It is
not unusual to see bottom line margins of 60 or 70 per
cent in the online business – compare that with print!
The combination of print and web for classifieds remains
popular because print classifieds still offer a
significant value added. People still buy newspapers and
they still read the classifieds inside. Classifieds in
print are in decline but they are not dead yet. We would
not expect them to disappear completely for a long time.
But for newspaper publishers looking to identify the
best way to react to this decline, it is a question of
managing the transition from print to online and being
in place with appropriate services for customers in all
media.
Finally, don’t forget also that mobile phones are small
computers. At Rosetta we already made several interfaces
to our classified systems for imode, SMS, Palm, WAP. Our
customers expect us to understand all media where we can
serve classifieds in a way that gives sellers and buyers
a value.
Q What
about new players (Google, MSN, Yahoo)?
How do you value the threat posed by powerful new
entrants in this market? Ebay? Google? Microsoft Live
Expo? Yahoo?
A
All those companies are great technology companies and
they are moving (or already moved) into classifieds.
Google Adwords, of course, is classified advertising
built on keywords instead of classifications. Yahoo has
offered classified advertising for 10 years. Look at
Ebay acquisitions over the last 2 years and it is clear
how they value classifieds.
These companies have great market presence and far
greater reach globally than any newspaper. So newspapers
must leverage their strengths, build on what they have
(local brand, local marketing, local networks) and
recognize that only a significant investment in best of
breed technology and aggressive marketing can place them
at the top of the value chain with strong competitors
like these.
Q
How about aggregators?
Can classifieds aggregators like Oodle and Edgeio pose a
threat in the future? Can they bring down prices? Is
there a legal vacuum?
A
Deep linking is great! A classified ad needs to reach
people who are looking for whatever it is that's in the
ad. The aggregators are nice guys, they're helping
achieve that result. They're just
doing a vertical version of what every search engine does with other
web pages. And they are business people; we can probably
talk it over and make this work for all of us. So
perhaps sometimes there is a need to remind ourselves
that the web is a network, after all, no point in
fighting it, go with the flow and capitalize on the
possibilities it offers.
The legal situation here, like so many new developments
on the web, is of course being gradually defined in
reaction to events – that’s a normal state of affairs
for the law makers, by the way.
See also: "a vision for the
future"